Tuesday, March 21, 2006

We have met the enemy and he is us... sometimes

There is a story about four people. Their names are EVERYBODY, SOMEBODY, ANYBODY, and NOBODY.

The story goes that there was a very important job that needed to be done. EVERYBODY was asked to do this job. Now ANYBODY could have done this job but NOBODY was willing to do it. Then SOMEBODY got angry about this because it was EVERYBODY'S job to do. Well, EVERYBODY thought that ANYBODY could have done it! But NOBODY realized that EVERYBODY blamed SOMEBODY for not doing the job. Still NOBODY did it. The arguing got worse and finally NOBODY would talk to ANYBODY and EVERYBODY blamed SOMEBODY. What a shame that ANYBODY could have done the job andEVERYBODY could have helped SOMEBODY but yet NOBODY did it!

Are you a SOMEBODY or a NOBODY?

I Remain Comitted to Open Exchange....

BUT...
I think we should remember some basic rules of discussion.

1. Let's don't stray too far from the subject. Example: What does being gay or bi have to do with ANYTHING here?

2. Stick to either facts or really make sure your opinions are marked as such.

I will be posting more information here about the situation particular to Kentucky TCOG and I want your opinions, insights and any additional information you might have. I have no intention at this time of moderating comments, editing posts or censoring your input. But I need your help to keep this site credible. Before I let this site be pushed into the lunatic fringe I will start moderating comments.

This information is very important because this is God's business. I don't relish dragging someones skeletons into the daylight, but the church I love is being tarnished by bad leadership.

Automaton

Saturday, March 18, 2006

Do the financial records from Bro. Estep's pastorate at Willisburg Ky. imply things done "in secret"?

John 18:20 reads "Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing". Jesus lived a life such that none of his actions needed to be hidden or done in secret. This standard applies to the leadership of God's church.

We as the Church and especially the Presbytery are obligated to abide by the law of the land as long as it does not violate God's law. Matthew records how Jesus handled just such an issue in the seventeenth chapter. Verses 24 through 27 read as follows:

"And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute? He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free. Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee."

With the above scriptural basis established let's establish some specific facts about the financial records of Willisburg Ky. From March 2002 to March 2003. The documents and facts here can be confirmed by the local church clerk at Willisburg Ky.

  • Bro. Estep was the appointed pastor.
  • Enclosure 3 details the Funds Paid to and Expenses Paid on Behalf of the Pastor during the above time frame. The first page of Enclosure 3 is a summary of said funds and the remaining pages show monthly details and totals.
  • I also have copies (front and back) of all the cancelled checks referred to in Enclosure 3 for corroboration. In the interest of the privacy of the local church I will NOT post images of checks.
After honest consideration of the document in Enclosure 3 the following questions arise:

  • If Bro. Estep was the appointed pastor why are there only two checks earmarked tithes for the entire year?
  • Why are the majority of checks written to Bro. Estep earmarked "Expense"? Why is the memo portion of the check on many occasions not in the Clerks hand? Where are the receipts for the expenses?
  • Why are a number of the checks signed over to a third party?
  • Is it normal Church procedure to write checks directly to the Pastor's creditors? Pay his bills with a church check? It is normal for the church clerk to write on average 9 checks per month just to the pastor or his creditors?
  • Are these "irregularities" connected to the Social Security assistance mentioned in an earlier post?

Monday, March 06, 2006

Should Church Resolutions apply to Bro. Estep as it does to other ministers?

Prov. 20:23 says "Divers weights are an abomination unto the LORD; and a false balance is not good." If the weight or standard that the Presbytery uses to discipline one minister is different from the standard used on another minister it indicates "divers weights". If the Presbytery considers an issue or condition very "weighty" and it has a significant influence on the status of a man's ministry and that same issue or condition is considered "light" or unimportant to another man's ministry then there is a "false balance" involved.

It is common knowledge that Bro. Estep has some sort of Social Security assistance. I am sure he is deserving of such and that is not an issue. Social Security makes determinations on eligibility based on many factors none of which are being disputed.

However, questions arise in the light of Enclosure 2 in the Links section which concerned another minister who was also receiving some sort of Social Security assistance. I am NOT comparing the details of the different cases, I am pointing out the "Resolution" of the Ways and Means Committe quoted in the letter. Part (A) of the resolution states "If the pastor is receiving Social Security disability and continues in his/her responsibilities (even in a limited capacity) he/she is in violation of Federal law which in turn violates God's law. (1 Peter 2:13-15)"

It is apparent from the letter that the Bro. from Arkansas was considered to be in violation of God's law and was removed from his position. Has the same "weight" been balanced against Bro. Estep? If not does that imply "divers weights"?

Sunday, March 05, 2006

Does Donald Estep I (Kentucky State Overseer) have the "Good Report" required for this position?

Paul describes to Timothy the qualifications of a Bishop in 1 Timothy 3. While we realize Bro. Estep is not a Bishop in the Church, are the qualifications for one who is to lead God's church in a region any less than the Bishops he will lead?

1 Timothy 3:7 says, speaking of a Bishop, "Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil"

Who are "them which are without"? They are everyone we deal with every day. In our personal business, paying our bills and our taxes, putting in a full day's work for a full day's pay, the checkout lady at WalMart.

Proverbs 20:11 says "Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right".

If I don't have a "good report" with them which are without I will only do damage to The Church of God if I am made a leader.

Enclosure 1 in the Links section illustrates a portion of Bro. Estep's "report" of them which are without. Are Federal Tax Leins and Bankruptcies an acceptable "report" of someone to lead The Church of God?